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Offline Gatobot

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Old Style RPG
« on: October 25, 2012, 06:25:38 pm »
Hi people

I was thinking to make a rpg like "Might and Magic III isles of terra"
but before doing anything just want to hear your comments
about :

Movement:

Should it be tile based like MMIII, this is easy to implement but is a little restrictive and a little slow...

or should it be like Ultima Underworld where you can move freely through the world


Terrain:

well more than a problem i want to know how you implement you world
i mean do you make a large terrain and then put buildings,tress,etc.
or  a more tiled approach like never winter nights 1..

well people i hope you can share your comments for this and thanks.


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Re: Old Style RPG
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 10:09:02 pm »
My answers will be somewhat biased based on my own adventures into rpg development (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olxPQ6zjNEA)...but anyway.

About tile based against free movement: I would say, go for what suits your game best and what you can achieve in the time you have to spare for this project. Tile based movement is easier to implement, 3d collisions are not an issue and you can add puzzles based on the fact that you can only move from tile to tile (like in Legend of Grimrock, which i really love btw). Plus you can edit your levels in an ASCII editor, if you want to.
Free movement on the other hand, is harder to get right and takes more time to implement. If done well, it CAN add to the immersion...but then again, Legend of Grimrock was very immersive, so...
If you watch the video above, you might notice that i'm using a free world but the dungeons are, despite the fact you can move freely in them, based on tiles. That's another option: Use free movement in a tiled world. That way, you'll get the best of both worlds...or the worst. It all depends on your game, i think.

About the terrain, here's what i did (not saying that it's great to do it that way...): I created a terrain in Terragen and reduced the polygon count to make it work well on Android. I then painted a splatting texture which defines grass, rocks, sand and paths. Trees, bushes and flowers are randomly placed but using a defined seed, i.e. each run will create the same random placement. Houses, fences, dungeons, walls, crates...are defined in xml files. At startup, i load these files and create simple beans based on that data. If such a bean gets into view (roughly), i assign a view to it. So my approach isn't tiled, but it's not one (or a few) monolithic mesh(s) either.

Another way of doing it, is what Marlon did with Forgotten Elements (http://forgottenelements.com / http://www.facebook.com/forgottenelements)...it's more like the Neverwinter Nights approach that you described.

The best advice that i can give is to go for what you think you can achieve in a reasonable time.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 10:12:04 pm by EgonOlsen »

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Re: Old Style RPG
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 11:55:10 pm »
ok thank you very much considering what you say I think the best will be to use a tiled approach
that way I'll have faster results and save time for other things
So I'll start with the tests and see what happens ::).
Thank you.

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Re: Old Style RPG
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 10:25:53 pm »
I am biased toward game controllers. I love console games, never much cared for PC games at all because I don't like gaming with the mouse.
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