Yes atm there's room for improvement.
But what I read this last days about the android platform is that it hasn't been compiled with the last gcc,
so it doesn't include neon floating-point optimization.

Another thing that I read is that OpenglES does allow to work in fixed points instead of floating points.
So here is a big big difference between the iPhone and the Android, even if of course the nexus as exemple has twice pixels.
(even if in the test he said that he changed the viewport... I don't think android os allows you to do that, it will just ignore and
render graphics like it was in the all surface).

I do know some features still have to be in floating points, but why meshes and animation couldn't be used as fixed points ?

On http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/ you can see that they do have 2 version with and without neon-float (which I don't understand since you have to recompile the os to be able to use this feature, and it will only work with the latest ndk + an linux-android kernel build with neon optimization).
As far as I understood what I've read.
Using VBO's (OpenglES 1.1) so not supported by all devices, apparently will give a performance boost too.

Perhaps you're true saying that android phones aren't ready for real gaming... Even I don't want to trust it.
But at the moment if you dev on an iPhone you know what is possible and is not.
Hope this will change soon !

Well anyway, I'm pretty sure too that google need to work on this and that there's a lot of room for improvement behind the scene.
Android os have a lot to improve, it's a great os but performance have to be improved.
it should restrict phone vendors to a min GPU,CPU,RAM requirement for example...
I really would like to help, but I'm quite missing time, so just let me know if you have improve something I'll test asap.

Here is some links that I've read.
Floating points on android.
http://www.anddev.org/good_fixed_point_math_libraries-t6714.html
Apparently there's good devs around this web site, and providing help.
Perhaps opening some discussion with them can make things improve like for this guy :
http://www.anddev.org/opengl_es_performance_problems-t12194.html

Best regards.

MD2 already consists of keyframes. When using 3DS or OBJ, each keyframe is an object/file of its own and you have to merge them into an Animation yourself. The wiki contains some information about this (so does the forum, but i can't find the thread right now, because the search function sucks (at least for me)): http://www.jpct.net/wiki/index.php/Loading_3ds_Keyframes_from_Blender

You are awesome, thank you !
I'm sorry that I didn't see it before.

Hello,

I have few questions so I started a new topic, perhaps it will help someone else too.

So here are my questions:
Are at the moment all the JPCT features implemented in JPCT-AE (of course features that can run on android) like models, animation, textures etc. support?
What are the recommended/supported format to load a world ? (like in quake3 maps are based on bsp format, but not characters).
" " to load non animated objects ?
" " to load animated objects ?
Are keyframes already implemented or does we have to use things like Bones " http://www.aptalkarga.com/bones/#overview "
What is the correct way to add textures to a model, what are the main advices or tips that we have to follow (texture names?) etc.?
Does JPCT-AE allow 2D drawing, like textures, text etc. ? (To do a personal menu for example).
Does JPCT-AE already include a 3D model selection based on 2D (x,y) point ?

I think I asked them all.
Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

ehm it's an image and text blitting test application, and hence the bubbles. you can hit center key to add more bubbles. and as you noticed they disappear after some time.

Sorry I don't understand what "blitting" means, I'm living in Switzerland and my mothers tongue is French, even I also speak Portuguese, English, German(school level) and learning Japanese.

and nevermind the menu, "copy paste is the mother of all evil"

Ahah I do know this very well...
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"Last week we had to "play" program few small trains with train station in real. (It was to prove our understanding about threads using the pthread lib).
And I spent 45minutes why my TrainA was not doing is stops and the TrainB suddenly stop itself when it was not needed.
Each train has is own thread and I did a copy paste at start to not having to rewrite the all thing... Well it was a bad idea since i copied TrainStop(B); everywhere... on the A thread."
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Now about A1.
If I add bubbles the fps drop under 60 fps
with 14 bubbles ~43fps
with 18 bubbles ~38fps
and as soon as they start disappearing it goes back to 60fps.

anther thing is that when you leave the application (home for exemple) then go back in, there's no more bubbles, only text appear. (same fps as with bubbles)

moving arround with the pad don't make any changes on fps. Or so few that's not visible.

Nice to see you guys working on better solutions, as always, you can ask for tests (Since that's the only help I can provide atm.)
I'm working on the project so feel free to ask.

ahahah advertising does work finally

Hello,

I would like to set the background to transparent (clear with transparency) my scene is it that possible ?
So I would be able to see a normal surfaceview (with another infos) trough my glsurfaceview.

I'm sorry to ask such a basic information ^^

Thank you in advance.

Nice I'm waiting for it !

Yes apparently it's correct removing RGB scaling is enough to make it work.

03-24 22:08:50.768: INFO/jPCT-AE(8550): OpenGL vendor:     Samsung Electronics
03-24 22:08:50.768: INFO/jPCT-AE(8550): OpenGL renderer:   FIMG
03-24 22:08:50.768: INFO/jPCT-AE(8550): OpenGL version:    1.1 (lib version 11.02.72)
03-24 22:08:50.768: INFO/jPCT-AE(8550): OpenGL renderer initialized (using 2 texture stages)
With this phone I only get 5-8 fps.

Nice story hehe I don't have much troubles with colors etc, except when someone ask me what color something is
Most of the time I'm wrong ^^